Trading signal and call groups

The claim

“I kept telling you about $ORBIO - 865X

$PAID - 674X

$PONS - 897X

$CATE - 793X

And now I’ve found another memecoin that looks seriously overlooked. 👀

Want in?

Drop a comment and I’ll send the details. 🔔”

@yeaknoya, 23 September 2026 (date worked out from the tweet’s ID number), 1,344 views as collected¹

“865X” means the price is said to have multiplied 865 times. A “memecoin” is a crypto coin traded on attention alone. A call group is a Telegram or Discord chat where someone posts “calls”, messages saying what to buy. The tweet gives no coin addresses, so we could not check its multiples, and it mentions no group¹. Our collection holds only 5 tweets, so this page rests mainly on how such groups are promoted and sold generally¹. It judges the scheme, not the people who tweeted.

The sums

In one study of 35,569 tweets by 180 prominent crypto influencers, the coin rose 1.83% on average on the day of the tweet⁷⁹. Measured from the second day, the average was -2.24% after 10 days, -6.53% after 30 and -18.90% after 90⁷⁹. For holding for days the average is negative, so no stake and no number of calls produces $1,000 a month; a bigger stake makes the expected loss bigger (our reasoning).

A buy and a sell of a small memecoin on the Solana network, through a trading bot (a program that trades from inside Telegram), cost about 4.3% to 4.5% (our estimate)⁶⁹²⁴. One memecoin community on Whop, a marketplace for such groups, charges $50 a month: 10% a month on a $500 pot (our estimate)¹⁸.

What a pot must return each month, after costs, to pay $1,000 (our estimate):

The 2.6% is the best measured edge we found for any callers, above the market and before costs: a minority of stock tipsters, not memecoin groups⁸.

What happens to most people who try

No study or dataset we found says how many group members end up ahead.

CoinWire, a crypto news site, tracked 1,567 memecoins promoted by 377 X accounts⁷. After one week 80% of the coins had lost 70% or more, and only 3% ever rose ten times⁷. The study is not peer reviewed.

A trading education site says it followed 112 stock signals from 7 groups for four weeks³². It logged 46% winners; with deleted losing calls left out, the groups’ public record looked like 62%³². The test is small, self-reported and from a site that earns from broker referrals³².

We traced one call from our collection, from a different and smaller account that we do not name. The price peaked 18 minutes after the tweet, about 77% above its level two to three minutes before it; a day later it was about 81% below that level (our estimates)¹². We do not know whether the author bought or sold. One call is not a rate.

The upside

• Skilled stock tipsters. A working paper’s abstract found 28% of tipsters on StockTwits, a social network for traders, were skilled, at 2.6% a month above the market⁸. Skill was measured in hindsight, and the 56% with negative skill had more followers⁸.
• Automated trading within the hour. A peer-reviewed study tested a program on 747 crypto buy signals for small, recently weak coins over seven and a half months of a rising market, selling one hour after each⁷². It returned 115.23%, against 67.72% for an index of large coins⁷². This is a calculation on past data, not money traded; only 27.97% of trades won, so a few big trades drove the result; and it assumed a 0.3% fee, far below the memecoin costs above⁷².
• Small accounts. In CoinWire’s sample, coins promoted by accounts with under 50,000 followers showed “141% positive returns after three months”, an average that a few big winners can lift⁷.
• Owners. Whoptrends, a third-party site, estimates one trading product on Whop at $419,000 a month; that is not verified income²³. We found no owner with payment-verified income.

What it takes to compete

• Being the caller, or early. In one study of Telegram “pumps”, where a group buys one coin at a set moment, insiders’ estimated return averaged 18%¹⁶.
• A way to pick callers that is not audience size. On platforms where customers copy other traders automatically, one study’s abstract says more followers did not go with better returns⁸⁰. What is left is a record you can check, losses included.

To tell early: for a month, log every call at the price you could have bought at, compare it with what the group celebrates, and ask how the caller is paid.

Who else makes money from it

The group owner is paid whether calls are right or not, through subscriptions¹⁸ or a share of members’ trading fees. GMGN, a Solana trading bot, pays 10% to 30% of its 1% fee to whoever referred the trader²⁶.

Most owners earn little. On Whoptrends’ estimates, about 80% of trading products on Whop earn nothing (our sum; the category includes courses and tools as well as call groups), and the median one with any revenue makes $333 a month²³.

Owners also carry legal risk. In Hong Kong a man who ran a paid Telegram group giving stock recommendations was sentenced to six weeks in prison in November 2025 for advising without a licence; he intended to appeal and we did not check the outcome⁵². That case concerns only him.